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walks onto the debate stage wednesday night, mitt romney will now he's behind. know he needs to catch up. needs to win the night. what can he show of himself that he hasn't shown before and what does he need to show of barack obama that we don't already know? seeing is believing. the three times the debates have changed the lead in a presidential race. each time it was about the words, but also that something else, something that told voters what they didn't know and all of a sudden mattered a lot. and finally, bad numbers. barack obama's ahead in nearly every national poll and battle ground state poll. but what do we really make of the crunchers who say mitt romney has just a 1-5 chance to win this election? hi, i'm chris mathews. welcome to the show. with us today, new york magazine's john, trish and kelly and the huffington post's d howard. with just over a month to go for mitt romney, given the polls, the debates may be it. it could change the narrative that has dogged him or cemented. romney has the same urgent must-do list that he at the republican convention. only now could be his
's move to politics now. >>> president obama and mitt romney are fine-tuning their message to voters with the first presidential debate just one week away. chuck todd is nbc's political director, chief white house correspondent. chuck, good morning to you. >> reporter: well, good morning, savannah. no swing state has been harder for mitt romney to gain traction in than ohio. it's why he has this bus trip this week. he is trying to get it back into play. the president is heading there today to try to put the state away. it's why they're both there this morning. >> it is time to get the real refs, and it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. >> reporter: the republican ticket is hoping their bus tour will make up lost ground in ohio as polls hoe mitt romney trailing president obama in this pivotal swing state. in dayton tuesday romney hammered mr. obama on tacks. >> i admit this one thing he did not do in his first four years, he has said he is going to do in the next four years which is to raise taxes, and is there anybody that
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